{"id":525,"date":"2015-09-14T20:17:04","date_gmt":"2015-09-14T20:17:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jessicaeblack.wordpress.com\/?p=525"},"modified":"2019-09-25T19:03:22","modified_gmt":"2019-09-25T19:03:22","slug":"the-other-guys-point-of-view","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jessicaeblack.org\/everythingelse\/2015\/09\/14\/the-other-guys-point-of-view\/","title":{"rendered":"the &#8220;other guy&#8217;s&#8221; point of view"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>One of the most common self-report measures of empathy is the <a href=\"http:\/\/fetzer.org\/sites\/default\/files\/images\/stories\/pdf\/selfmeasures\/EMPATHY-InterpersonalReactivityIndex.pdf\">Interpersonal Reactivity Index<\/a> (Davis, 1980). \u00a0Sample item: &#8220;I sometimes find it difficult to see things from the &#8220;other guy&#8217;s&#8221; point of view.&#8221; \u00a0Actually, this particular item is part of the Perspective-taking subscale. \u00a0There is also an Empathic Concern subscale, and two others that are used less frequently. \u00a0I&#8217;ve used Davis&#8217;s scale many times (<a href=\"https:\/\/jessicaeblack.org\/research\/about\/\">my academic reearcher side<\/a>). \u00a0I&#8217;d kind of like to administer it now, to thousands of people, along with a few simple questions assessing their take on the &#8220;migrant&#8221; (most commonly used in <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2015\/09\/14\/world\/europe\/germany-emergency-measures-european-migrant-crisis.html?emc=edit_th_20150914&amp;nl=todaysheadlines&amp;nlid=21043733&amp;_r=0\">US news<\/a>) or &#8220;refugee&#8221; (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theguardian.com\/world\/2015\/sep\/14\/refugee-crisis-britain-set-for-eu-showdown-after-germany-brings-in-border-controls\">European news<\/a> but also CNN <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/2015\/09\/13\/opinions\/refugee-crisis-amanpour\/\">here<\/a>) crisis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If you&#8217;ve been living with your head in a bubble, just click on the links above. (or <a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/parallels\/2015\/09\/08\/438630446\/the-surge-of-refugees-in-europe-could-be-just-the-first-wave\">NPR piece<\/a>) &nbsp;There are over 4&nbsp;<strong><em>million<\/em><\/strong>&nbsp;<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">registered<\/span> Syrian refugees (<a href=\"http:\/\/data.unhcr.org\/syrianrefugees\/regional.php#_ga=1.258867530.1704934996.1442242873\">source<\/a>). &nbsp;That&#8217;s&nbsp;<strong>FOUR MILLION.<\/strong> &nbsp;Registered. &nbsp;That&#8217;s not all. &nbsp;7000 people crossed into a Hungarian border town&nbsp;<strong><em>overnight<\/em><\/strong> (in Guardian piece linked above). &nbsp;Thirty-four people (15 children) died in Aegean Sea yesterday, when their boat capsized. &nbsp;I believe at this point the term&nbsp;<em>refugee<\/em> is warranted. &nbsp;How many people would put their families in danger because they wanted to&#8211;voluntarily&#8211;<em>migrate? &nbsp;<\/em>Show of hands?<\/p>\n\n\n<style>.wp-block-kadence-advancedheading.kt-adv-heading_bbd5ff-40, .wp-block-kadence-advancedheading.kt-adv-heading_bbd5ff-40[data-kb-block=\"kb-adv-heading_bbd5ff-40\"]{font-size:16px;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-family:Georgia, serif;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedheading.kt-adv-heading_bbd5ff-40 mark.kt-highlight, .wp-block-kadence-advancedheading.kt-adv-heading_bbd5ff-40[data-kb-block=\"kb-adv-heading_bbd5ff-40\"] mark.kt-highlight{font-style:normal;color:#f76a0c;-webkit-box-decoration-break:clone;box-decoration-break:clone;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-left:0px;}.wp-block-kadence-advancedheading.kt-adv-heading_bbd5ff-40 img.kb-inline-image, .wp-block-kadence-advancedheading.kt-adv-heading_bbd5ff-40[data-kb-block=\"kb-adv-heading_bbd5ff-40\"] img.kb-inline-image{width:150px;vertical-align:baseline;}<\/style>\n<h6 id=\"kt-adv-heading_bbd5ff-40\" class=\"kt-adv-heading_bbd5ff-40 wp-block-kadence-advancedheading\">Remember, it&#8217;s not the Dark Ages. \u00a0<\/h6>\n\n\n\n<p>These people\u00a0<em>know<\/em> the dangers. \u00a0But they also know the dangers of staying. \u00a0A r<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/interactive\/2015\/09\/14\/world\/middleeast\/syria-war-deaths.html\">ecent New York Times piece<\/a> estimates that 200,000 have died in the Syrian civil war. This number is surely small, given that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.reuters.com\/article\/2015\/02\/07\/us-mideast-crisis-toll-idUSKBN0LB0DY20150207\">Reuters reported 210,000<\/a> last February. \u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bbc.com\/news\/world-middle-east-34221096\">Chemical weapons<\/a> are a looming threat.<br>Germany has\u00a0just reintroduced border controls after years of open-borders. Who can blame them, with some 10,000 refugees arriving on a daily basis. \u00a0Overall, Germany has been the most welcoming European country; eastern Europe, on the other hand, has shown greater resistance to housing refugees. \u00a0Perhaps this should not be surprising, as they are poorer countries with their own problems. \u00a0Even so, their attitude has been far more generous than that of the United States.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Most of the refugees remain in the neighboring countries of Turkey, Lebanon, or Jordan, either hoping to return home, waiting for official refugee status, or unwilling to face the risks of travelling to Europe. &nbsp;Some hope to make it to the US, which has accepted about 1,500 refugees from Syria (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/national\/archive\/2015\/09\/the-us-response-to-syrias-refugees\/404728\/\">out of ~70,000 total in the 2015 fiscal year<\/a>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mostly, I&#8217;ve blocked so many news outlets that I don&#8217;t see the most bigoted and blind knee-jerk reactions to current events. &nbsp;But some people&#8217;s biases get past my radar, usually via comments on more sane friends&#8217; posts. &nbsp;So I&#8217;ve seen remarks to the effect that we cannot accept any <del>refugees<\/del>&nbsp;migrants because some of them are going to be terrorists, and some are only in it for the remote possibility of killing US citizens. &nbsp;Remarks such as &#8220;We know all terrorists in the US are foreign born, or children of immigrants&#8221; (re: Boston bombings), or (and I cite) &#8220;Also you can not compare American born killers to those that would behead you for your beliefs. These people have no career, no education, and will not assimilate.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h6 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Is it worse to be killed by a <em>foreigner<\/em>&#8230;?<\/h6>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s not clear if the people with no career and no education are the &#8220;American born killers&#8221; (and although <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/movies\/movie\/132230\/Natural-Born-Killers\/overview\">Natural Born Killers<\/a> immediately came to my mind, I don&#8217;t believe the film&#8211;or accompanying controversy&#8211;was in\u00a0<em>his<\/em> mind) or the foreigners&#8230; but I suppose\u00a0<em>will not assimilate<\/em>\u00a0gives it away. \u00a0I guess it just hurts worse to be killed by a foreigner. Maybe it&#8217;s related to some unseen battle of the gods. \u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Needless to say, I made no reply to that comment. \u00a0Such ignorance revealed in two sentences, appalling, and probably beyond help. \u00a0Does this person entirely lack empathy, or is it an ingroup\/outgroup thing? \u00a0Perhaps he\u00a0<em>can<\/em> empathize when the &#8220;other guy&#8221; is a fellow American (and perhaps he is capable of seeing things from <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Timothy_McVeigh\">Timothy McVeigh<\/a>&#8216;s perspective).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Of course, that&#8217;s an extreme case&#8230; but many people also express reluctance to take in immigrants (seems the majority view of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/news\/post-politics\/wp\/2015\/09\/14\/mike-huckabee-some-syrian-refugees-may-have-nefarious-purposes\/\">Republican hopefuls<\/a>). \u00a0And maybe there are people who would take advantage of the refugee crisis to gain admittance to the USA for &#8220;nefarious purposes.&#8221; \u00a0But there <i>is<\/i> an extensive <a href=\"http:\/\/www.uscis.gov\/humanitarian\/refugees-asylum\/asylum\/affirmative-asylum-process\">screening process<\/a> in place for\u00a0<em>all<\/em> of the refugees granted asylum in the United States. This process places many families into an eternal cycle of Ground Hog days. Documents expire before they can complete the next step, so that they must start everything anew.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">There <em>is<\/em> risk&#8230;<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Could a potential terrorist sneak through? Of course. &nbsp;After all, we&#8217;ve got plenty of homegrown crazies&nbsp;who seem quite capable of killing for all sorts of reasons, including just because you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time (such as a school).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">but it&#8217;s small<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>But of all the people leaving everything they know to risk their lives to reach a strange land, how many are likely to be terrorists\u00a0<em>en potentia<\/em>? \u00a0Do those who worry about the future terrorists even consider what it must feel like to be forced to leave your home? To leave knowing you may never reach your destination (if you allow yourself to think there may\u00a0<em>be<\/em> a destination)? Knowing your children may drown,\u00a0<strong><em>not<\/em><\/strong> knowing what awaits, how you will earn you livelihood, in most cases probably not even knowing what language people will speak in your new &#8220;home&#8221;?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Most of us in the USA (exceptions being those who have come from equally horrific situations&#8211;those coming north from Central American come to mind) are lucky enough to be unable to\u00a0<em>truly<\/em> see things from the &#8220;other guy&#8217;s&#8221; point of view when it comes to situations such as these. \u00a0We&#8217;ve never had to and will never have to walk a mile in those other guys&#8217; shoes. \u00a0We cannot conceive of such uncertainty and danger. \u00a0But we should still make the effort, especially if reason cannot show us that we ought to help. \u00a0(I have no trouble arriving at the need to offer asylum using the most cold and calculated reasoning. Apparently many people cannot follow the same rationale). \u00a0We should\u00a0<em>try<\/em> to imagine the hardship. 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